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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:43 am

Yeah it is interesting. How much Greg knew about what will happen with Rose when Steven will be born. I know she recorded message for Steven and maybe Greg heard it. But that's the thing we don't know for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:28 pm

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You know how when Jasper first discovered that Steven could use Rose’s shield? What she said was: “You have the power of Rose Quartz”. Not “You have the power of a Rose Quartz”.

Which would have her implying that there is only one Rose Quartz she could be referring to. Just based off that, couldn’t one assume that the gem Rose Quartz is a rare form of Quartz? Just like how Sapphire is apparently a rare gem to Homeworld.

It could mean that either Rose Quartz was a rare gem or that Homeworld stopped creating them after the rebellion. After all Peridot did say that Quartz soldiers were loyal. So what if Homeworld thought that since one Rose Quartz turned rebellious, that they all might? That would mean that Homeworld stopped creating Rose Quartz gems and any Rose Quartz had already been created was destroyed.

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I'm going to focus more on the "Not “You have the power of a Rose Quartz”, because by that statement, it looks like there is only one.

I don't know if I agree with the rest of it. The rest of this person's theory would have to suggest then that Rose Quartz was the ONLY ONE existing at the time of the rebellion and all that and they ceased to make anymore. Which, if there are multiple Rose Quartzes, I don't believe that she'd be the only one. Ditto Sapphire. Rare does NOT mean exclusive; those two terms are entirely different.

And I doubt they'd have some policy of like "Only craft 1 Sapphire/Rose Quartz/what have you, every 10,000 years" or something.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:55 am

Maybe its just our Rose is able to create that shield and no other rose is able to?

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:32 pm

(Here comes someone with knowledge in geology)

Rose Quartz, and Quartz's in general, can only be formed in O2 and Co2 rich atmospheres. Unlike stones like Peridots and Lapis Lazulis'. Quartz gemstones need an atmosphere of some sort to germinate.

Rose Quartz are somewhat special in their specific location. They can only be formed in a few select spots, making it a sure and clear possibility that no more can be formed after one has moved the site of production.

Rose quartz is an igneous mineral that originates in shallow areas of the earth's crust. It forms from the solidification of granitic
magma (molten rock). Within the earth, plutons (huge masses of magma ) slowly migrate upward toward the surface of the
earth. A pluton is driven upward because magma is less dense than surrounding solid rock. This is analogous to a mixture of
oil and water. When mixed, the oil always seeks the higher elevation. Over time, the plutons cool off and completely
solidify. Plutons generally solidify miles beneath the earth's surface. In contrast, volcanoes and volcanic rocks are formed
by magma that erupts onto the surface of the earth, producing lava flows.


So quite literally, all one would need to do to prevent the creation of a Rose Quartz, is to drill in areas lacking Pluton deposits.

There are many reasons why Homeworld would try their best not to make any more Roses.

Though, Geology isn't too big of a factor within a race of aliens, but it surely confirms that Rose was made on Earth, or something resembling Earth exactly, by Homeworld.

Maybe she isn't as old as we thought? Who knows. Only the progression of the show will tell.




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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:11 am

@Karmic Retribution wrote:
(Here comes someone with knowledge in geology)

Rose Quartz, and Quartz's in general, can only be formed in O2 and Co2 rich atmospheres. Unlike stones like Peridots and Lapis Lazulis'. Quartz gemstones need an atmosphere of some sort to germinate.

Rose Quartz are somewhat special in their specific location. They can only be formed in a few select spots, making it a sure and clear possibility that no more can be formed after one has moved the site of production.

Rose quartz is an igneous mineral that originates in shallow areas of the earth's crust. It forms from the solidification of granitic
magma (molten rock). Within the earth, plutons (huge masses of magma ) slowly migrate upward toward the surface of the
earth. A pluton is driven upward because magma is less dense than surrounding solid rock. This is analogous to a mixture of
oil and water. When mixed, the oil always seeks the higher elevation. Over time, the plutons cool off and completely
solidify. Plutons generally solidify miles beneath the earth's surface. In contrast, volcanoes and volcanic rocks are formed
by magma that erupts onto the surface of the earth, producing lava flows.


So quite literally, all one would need to do to prevent the creation of a Rose Quartz, is to drill in areas lacking Pluton deposits.

There are many reasons why Homeworld would try their best not to make any more Roses.

Though, Geology isn't too big of a factor within a race of aliens, but it surely confirms that Rose was made on Earth, or something resembling Earth exactly, by Homeworld.

Maybe she isn't as old as we thought? Who knows. Only the progression of the show will tell.




That's interesting to note. That would mean Homeworld would have similar conditions since it is implied that Rose Quartz is from Homeworld.

But!

What if she's not? What if she's actually from Earth? Though not human, she could appreciate life of Earth from a deeper level (about as much as Amethyst if not moreso since Rose Quartz appears to be more "philosophical"). Hmmm. That would be interesting. If she were from Earth, I wonder how she could've risen to such a high status? Perhaps she was one of the first ever gems created on Earth and she messed everything up for Homeworld.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:15 am

You know, the more I think about it, the more I think Rose Quartz is from Earth. I mean, she is phytokinetic (can control flora). It's plausible that she has control of any sort of plant life on any planet but I'm sure plants would be composed of different stuffs on other planets. I mean, you hear Rose Quartz and you think of flowers and life as a whole. Why would a Homeworld gem be able to command flowers and plants on Earth? How could they?

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:27 am

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You know, the more I think about it, the more I think Rose Quartz is from Earth. I mean, she is phytokinetic (can control flora). It's plausible that she has control of any sort of plant life on any planet but I'm sure plants would be composed of different stuffs on other planets. I mean, you hear Rose Quartz and you think of flowers and life as a whole. Why would a Homeworld gem be able to command flowers and plants on Earth? How could they?

Thoughts?

*PLOT TWIST!*

Rose Quartz looks so human and has Earthly abilities because...

SHE IS ALSO A HALF HUMAN HYBRID!!
That's the reason we've never seen her regenerate / get poofed!

Kidding kidding... but posting this crack theory just in case we get trolled by Rebecca xD

It is strange though, similar to how Lapis Lazulis are known to control water... weird.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:33 am

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Rose Quartz wrote:
You know, the more I think about it, the more I think Rose Quartz is from Earth. I mean, she is phytokinetic (can control flora). It's plausible that she has control of any sort of plant life on any planet but I'm sure plants would be composed of different stuffs on other planets. I mean, you hear Rose Quartz and you think of flowers and life as a whole. Why would a Homeworld gem be able to command flowers and plants on Earth? How could they?

Thoughts?

*PLOT TWIST!*

Rose Quartz looks so human and has Earthly abilities because...

SHE IS ALSO A HALF HUMAN HYBRID!!
That's the reason we've never seen her regenerate / get poofed!

Kidding kidding... but posting this crack theory just in case we get trolled by Rebecca xD

It is strange though, similar to how Lapis Lazulis are known to control water... weird.

Hey I like that plot twist! That would be trolling though.

Maybe these elemental/nature controllers are actually from Earth or other Earth-like planets.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:35 am

Well, Quartz could originate from Earth. Maybe certain types of planets create certain gems? When Home world runs low on a certain type of gem, they go and create more?

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:50 pm

I would have never thought about it like that but you are right. I'm sure certain gems need certain environments and conditions to grow. Only thing about her maybe being of Earth is that it always seems implied (to me at least) that she's from Homeworld, but i could be wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:57 pm

@Brit-chan wrote:
I would have never thought about it like that but you are right. I'm sure certain gems need certain environments and conditions to grow. Only thing about her maybe being of Earth is that it always seems implied (to me at least) that she's from Homeworld, but i could be wrong.

You're right on it feeling like she is from Homeworld - I get that vibe, too. I think we all do. Right now my ideas sit with:

Rose is Pink Diamond

or now

Rose Quartz is from Earth and grew to love it


Needing certain environments would also help explain why they want to expand their empire so much (aside from them being a totally domineering civilization that wanted to rule the universe).

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:44 pm

There's an interesting theory that Rose Quartz was a personal bodyguard to Pink Diamond - hence her size-changing shield. And she ended up having to kill Pink Diamond somehow, some way, to make the colonization stop on Earth.

I think I could get behind this idea, but I'm still pretty stuck on Rose is Pink Diamond, dammit. I know she's smaller and all that than the other Diamonds but she can shapeshift her size, as Amethyst has demonstrated time and time again.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:52 am

I think its an interesting theory that lends back to Quartz being warriors of a kind. Peridot did say that Amethyst was small and should have been bigger.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory & Debate] Who is Rose Quartz?   Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:59 pm

Just wanted to quickly share my thoughts on the "how did Rose know she and Steven couldn't both exist" topic of the previous page. I think that what she wanted wasn't a child, what she wanted was to experience being human. And the only way for her to do this was to biologically fuse. I'm taking her "I'm going to become half of you" in Lion 3 extremely literally.

On the topic of whether Rose was Pink Diamond I'm not completely opposed to the theory that the diamonds are actually some kind of fusions..! Though there isn't any evidence for this, it would explain why Rose is smaller than the other diamonds, and why her gemstone isn't a diamond - because she'd need to fuse with another gem we haven't seen yet to become Pink Diamond.
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